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[caprice06]

Ms Short of 1973, she would be in her late sixties or early seventies and her three children would be in their forties now. I was in my early twenties back then not knowing in what to think. Her age would be about right if she was a niece or great niece to Bette Short. Either way, I wish I never heard of the story. Sometimes if I read too much, I have nightmares about her murder. This is also the reaching I must stop posting for awhile.

As for venting no. boredom no.

It is way in helping not everyone has access to all of the information, the historical facts, the theories, the myth, their opinions, and the theories of Bette Short's murder all in one location.

This is my opinion on the following:

George Hodel-If he had done the crime, the Murder of Bette Short and the Lipstick Murders, he would have acted alone, and no loose ends. Yes I have read Steve Hodel's book. I cannot accept he had a partner in crime, Fred Sexton. Fred Sexton would be a loose end, he would have confess if the police had caught up with him. George would have had to kill him, or threating him seriously, blackmail only on George's controlling the situation, against Fred.

Robert Red Manly-He had a motive and the schizophrenia. He almost killed a man in the army this is why he was discharged. The story goes he was drinking too much and got in fight with a man.This was when he was diagnose with the illness. He is not surgeon.

Mark Hansen-I do not believe he did the crime, but any members of his club.

Jack Parson-He was Leader of the Agape Lodge, he followed Aleister Crowley. He was a hit with Hollywood. Serious Crimes such as rape were charged in LA Agape Lodge from various teens young ladies to young gentlemen but some how no one was charged or convicted.

Bette Short claims she was seeing Jack to do some Modeling works.

[caprice06]

Ms Short of 1973, she would be in her late sixties or early seventies and her three children would be in their forties now. I was in my early twenties back then not knowing in what to think. Her age would be about right if she was a niece or great niece to Bette Short. Either way, I wish I never heard of the story. Sometimes if I read too much, I have nightmares about her murder. This is also the reaching I must stop posting for awhile.

As for venting no. boredom no.

It is way in helping not everyone has access to all of the information, the historical facts, the theories, the myth, their opinions, and the theories of Bette Short's murder all in one location.

This is my opinion on the following:

George Hodel-If he had done the crime, the Murder of Bette Short and the Lipstick Murders, he would have acted alone, and no loose ends. Yes I have read Steve Hodel's book. I cannot accept he had a partner in crime, Fred Sexton. Fred Sexton would be a loose end, he would have confess if the police had caught up with him. George would have had to kill him, or threating him seriously, blackmail only on George's controlling the situation, against Fred.

Robert Red Manly-He had a motive and the schizophrenia. He almost killed a man in the army this is why he was discharged. The story goes he was drinking too much and got in fight with a man.This was when he was diagnose with the illness. He is not surgeon.

Mark Hansen-I do not believe he did the crime, but any members of his club could have killed Bette Short.

Jack Parson-He was Leader of the Agape Lodge, he followed Aleister Crowley. He was a hit with Hollywood. Serious Crimes such as rape were charged in LA Agape Lodge from various teens young ladies to young gentlemen but some how no one was charged or convicted.



Bette Short claims she was seeing Jack to do some Modeling works.

[caprice06]

http://www.bariumblues.com/jpl.htm

The Church of Thelema at 1746 North Winona Boulevard

Jack Parsons, dedicated occultist and chemist of genius, was born in 1914 and died in 1952 in a mysterious explosion whose cause has never been fully explained.

Parsons was an active member of the California Agape Lodge of the sex magickal group Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), and in letters addressed The Great Beast (Crowley) as "Most Beloved Father".

Wild monkey sex with the goal of creating a "moonchild." A moonchild in this context is best described as an Thelemic messiah, a magic homonculus monster child along the general lines of "Rosemary's Baby."

http://soc.world-journal.net/crowleyscientology.html

[b]On February 26, 1939, while the Agape Lodge had about ten practicing members, a former Zeigfeld Follies dancer attending drama classes at Los Angeles City College was attacked on campus and died from her wounds. [/b]Although there was no connection between the girl's murder and the OTO, an avalanche of newspapermen soon descended on the house, keen to get the scoop on what had been termed the "Purple Cult." Headlines such as HIGH PRIESTESS IS COLLEGE TEACHER and PURPLE CULT RITES BARED sprawled across the newspapers.

Little more than a pamphlet, Liber Oz professed the familiar Crowley doctrine: "Man has the right to live by his own law, to live in the way that he wills to do: to work as he will: to play as he will: to rest as he will: to die when and how he will."



if Jack Parson did not do the crime against Bette Short, but someone from their group did. Jack would use a sword in his ceremony and swing around at home.

George Hodel would feel at home at Agape Lodge.

[Briar]

I split the investigation related part off of the "why I want to be banned" post which I moved to off topic. I am predicting that this will be your most popular topic yet
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[Impy]

What....in...the....blue........hell?

[caprice06]

Only if you wish it to be Briar. I would not have called Monkey Sex, I would have called it Jack Parson or Aleister Crowley Agape Lodge which is not too far from Hollywood studios, if you check out the link.

[caprice06]

Accordingly to Steve Hodel Black Dahlia Avenger George Hodel worship the Tibtan god of death and does believe in Aleister Crowley dictum. Do what you will

I am certain if you were able to contact Steve Hodel, asked him, if his father George Hodel shared the same beliefs as the Agape Lodge which was in LA in 1930s to 1951 which teaches Aleister Crowley, he might be able find out if he was a member. This support his theory that his father was evil and capable of commiting murders.

[Briar]

If I was ABLE to contact Steve Hodel?? I have exchanged emails with Steve Hodel for years. I have read his books. Watched everything he's been on (along with other Dahlia experts) AND I've read his book. I am not commenting on your posts, I am cleaning up after you. In fact, I don't read them anymore.
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[caprice06]

I do not buy into Man Ray involved with George Hodel, But would buy George Hodel with Jack Parson. I believe Jack Parson was one who help and kept from George convicted of his murder.

[caprice06]

Another reason I do not buy the Man Ray, is look at history of his life. He was never committed any sexually assault on anyone. His marriage to Juliet Browner was viewed by everyone in life as beautiful as his photographs.